“hold off, Is This a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Why don’t we earn some sound for soles in your house! (It’s myself, underneath in the home.) Bottom community is very a Thing™ Online recently! But what will it actually indicate getting a bottom? Precisely why contains the society determined bottoming is actually similar to getting afraid to inquire about for just what you would like? And just how really does someone start determining as long as they fancy bottoming?!

With all of these questions rattling around our minds, requiring answers, Drew and I knew there was clearly only 1 person we can easily check-out for a rounded, passionate conversation about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is just one of the finest individuals i am aware composing and tweeting today, and also as a bottom my self, i’m recognized to call the woman my leader. Chingy helps us tease what it method for be a bottom, the reason why she dislikes “smol bean” bottom tradition, your body as hole, plus body as

total

. It really is a very beautiful conversation, basically perform say-so myself! Please know i know that I say “gorgeous” about three thousand instances this occurrence, and I am searching for assistance for my problem. (The condition is actually talking like 57 yr old white homosexual man.)

And! This week’s game requires myself speculating in the event the complicated plots Drew defines participate in a motion picture or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!


PROGRAM NOTES

+ Read Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+Here is a listing of all flicks that Drew included in her video game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Mentioning Baby

    (1938)


  • Pierrot le Fou


    (1965)

  • Dark Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris carry out the greatest work of her career in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one sleep while outfitted as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

since you are entitled to that.


+Cindy Wilson of The B52s is quite hot and frankly? “Love Shack” however whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: i have only been bottoming since I was actually, I’m not sure, dating back I’m able to keep in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: As far back as I’m able to recall, I always wished to end up being a bottom, no, but sort of

[intro performs]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I Am Christina.


Drew

: This is

Wait, Is It a night out together

?


Christina

:

Wait, Is It a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast specialized in the only, really the only the largest concern in our times: Wait, So is this a Date?


Drew

: And, wow, i must say i just froze up indeed there.


Christina

: I became like, oh shit, I became supposed to state something! [laughs]


Drew

: I’m truly rapid towards the banter, my head only… The truth is that I found myself checking out over my personal game notes, which we’re not at yet because we still have to present ourselves. So, i’ll attempt to remain focused on one task each time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: My name is Drew Gregory, i will be an author for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans lady.


Christina

: Hi, my name is Christina Tucker, forgot my personal finally title for a hot minute, no fuss. I will be also an author at Autostraddle also spots on the web, a podcaster, a gay black girl. Which is style of it, dog, that is me personally.


Drew

: I adore it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: Now the overall game.


Drew

: are we able to play the online game?


Christina

: are we able to get to the online game? I can inform you’re thrilled, I could inform you’re merely vibrating.


Drew

: therefore, i am keeping an aspiration diary since 2007, and assumption for this video game is-


Christina

: I didn’t know this in regards to you!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t as current today, we always record all my desires and now it’s only once anything actually sticks. But, the assumption of your online game is actually, am we describing the storyline of a dream I experienced as I was a teenager, or are I explaining the plot of a film that we loved when I had been an adolescent?


Christina

: Oh kid, okay.


Drew

: very, ways it is going to get is we’ll usually describe it an aspiration and also in initial individual. So, whether or not it ended up being

Celebrity Wars,

I’d resemble, i am in space and I’m battling within a rebellion, and there’s an evil  man that is wearing a black robot fit also it works out he is my father. That’s the way I’ll explain it, how we explain hopes and dreams, but often it might be a dream, often it’ll be from a film. Prepared?


Christina

: i am anything, I don’t know that I’m ready, but let us stone. Let’s see just what I’m able to perform right here.


Drew

: Okay, i am on a coastline and I see this odd man dressed up in black colored. The guy informs me that he’s Death so we can take advantage of a game title to choose if I reside or if the guy takes myself. I manage to break free, but every where I-go, people are unwell and that I feel just like dying is still after me.The only happy component happens when I satisfy a theater troupe and they’re a lot of fun.


Christina

: This,I think, is an aspiration.


Drew

: This would be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: this really is will be an actual gotcha on CT’s classic film understanding, because what I know that Drew, inside adolescence, wasn’t undertaking ended up being viewing movies that i will accept. At this time, i am types of wishing that I’ve seen do not require. I think that is to be more fun for my situation.


Drew

: the next one, I’m meeting with my loved ones many Italian American gangsters. One of many gangsters requires that we provide over some money, but my loved ones and that I been able to escape. We run away through all this work arctic terrain, on the highway I fulfill an actress and connect to the lady. We land in a suburb. In my opinion we’re going to start a new existence together until she takes us to a huge mansion, and I understand it is one of the gangster. It absolutely was all a trap, the gangster comes there’s a confrontation. I eliminate him, the dream concludes making use of the celebrity doing a musical quantity.


Christina

: Is this a movie?


Drew

: This would be a dream I got in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i need to just remember that , it’s 2000, its old-school received brain. That is what I have to remember.


Drew

: In addition love, exactly what movies had been we seeing during the time and just how a lot did that effect my desires?


Christina

: Well, yeah, demonstrably quite a lot!


Drew

: A fun fact is that I became in fact, i did not integrate this simply because I was thinking this could give it out, but the gangster had been Tony Soprano because I became seeing

The Sopranos

in 2008. Thus, that is an enjoyable small fact. Okay, next one, We have an essential project, but this hot girl comes up and starts distracting myself. I do want to end up being together, but I additionally should get might work completed, thus I inform this lady to depart. She helps to keep soon after me. Out of the blue, a leopard seems inside my space and I need to spend rest of the fantasy attempting to get the leopard. I am however actually stressed, We never finish could work, but at least the lady is actually hot.


Christina

: This has getting an aspiration of yours, it has getting a Drew dream.


Drew

: This Is Certainly Howard Hawks’

Discussing Baby

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that is a dream you have, this is the the majority of Drew fantasy i have have you ever heard. Now at this stage, I’m just will be spinning motion picture history, to match my whims.


Drew

: Great, Everyone loves that. Okay, I’m at a celebration and I you shouldn’t really like any individual there. Ultimately, I see this lady, we once had a crush on and then we opt to leave collectively. We check-out her house, but they are chased off by this band of males that are trying to kill the lady. We become on a beach also it may seem like we will end up being ok before men discover you. She ends up becoming into this other guy, and so I just take cartoonish dynamite and decide to blow my self up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: this is exactly! This is Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: have never observed, but that seems like a ding dang film to me.


Drew

: Great, I like it. There’s a narration explaining a strange vessel like construction which is impractical to damage. I want on a retreat nearby the design, the retreat is sort of theater connected, type of spiritual. You will find a crush about this lady within refuge, but this lady has a boyfriend. Amid the activities and traditions, there are many drama between me personally which lady and her boyfriend, it closes beside me by yourself. There is a sequence exposing that the ship construction is actually impossible to wreck because a mechanical supply fixes it into the night.


Christina

: that might be everything in many techniques, i will say movie again, why don’t you?


Drew

: its a dream from 2011, that did have narration from another person, you realize, it happens!


Christina

: This is really good promo for an aspiration log, because I believe enjoy it would-be fun if I could recall my hopes and dreams in this manner.


Drew

: Nobody really likes when you explain the aspirations in their eyes. I actually do though, and that I’m your own pal, so if you wanna write-down your fantasies and let me know, i might love to learn about them.


Christina

: Okay, that’s very nice to learn.


Drew

: i’ve two a lot more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am in a beautiful garden with a team of buddies, each of us appear to be getting out of bed from getting drugged. We’re forced to bathe in an acid that empties pigment and in addition we become golden-haired and blue-eyed. The folks in control start training united states to kill, it turns out this place has been operated by a crazy dictator, we resist acquiring totally brainwashed. There’s this lady indeed there i’ve a crush on and I persuade this lady to escape with me, while escaping I get recorded and killed, but the lady becomes away. Whenever she actually leaves the prison, she realizes we are in the middle of a forest so there’s no place going.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: that will be the most important fantasy within my dream record from, I mentioned, “2007.” It’s actually 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i usually believed it was interesting that we die into the fantasy, but the other person continues on. However now, there is some unusual gender material taking place truth be told there, and that I’m likely to must think of that one for some time.


Christina

: Definitely do this.


Drew

: Okay, I have another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am given the chance to end up being a ballerina, my mom claims I won’t have the ability to get it done. Absolutely this additional lady in program whom In my opinion is hot, but i am worried she’s going to change me. I’m struggling in rehearsal, but-end right up leaving making use of lady, we hook-up. It is hot, but i’m me shedding control, we return to the dance show. My body system is apparently morphing into something else entirely, I’m stressed that i’ll mess-up.


Christina

: that is a film.


Drew

: So,

Ebony Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, definitely

Black Swan

, truly.


Drew

: Have you ever viewed

Dark Swan

? Which was one I was thinking you viewed.


Christina

: I’ve come across

Dark Swan

, I… Fun reality, I continued a romantic date with men to see

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: simply right situations used to do.


Drew

: the thing that was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it actually was odd.


Drew

: Did you such as the film? Performed the guy like flick?


Christina

: In my opinion, I had already seen it, I think I found myself similar, “Let’s get view it once more.” I believe, I became really pro

Black Swan,

as well as for straight heterosexual explanations, undoubtedly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “which was strange.” And I was like, “Oh well, we’re not attending always date.”


Drew

: Wow, well If only him the most effective, i really hope he’s someplace successful. Thank you so much for playing this video game with me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m very glad I moved two for nonetheless many we performed on that.


Drew

: Not terrible.


Christina

: Not bad.


Drew

: You did a lot better than Elise performed while I wanted to find out if it was a functional online game might work, and she had been my guinea-pig. Thus, she merely had gotten one right.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Drew

: Should we move on to the main topic with the few days?


Christina

: let us enter into it, why don’t we understand this unique guest in.


Drew

: Well, I would like to initially say that our very own main topic in the few days is bottoming, therefore we could simply have one extremely unique visitor.


Christina

: It is only 1 individual.


Drew

: Could you please present your self?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I will be a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather-based dyke muppet. I will be in addition The united states’s number 1 base.


Christina

: Yes, I think when we had been discussing topics and in addition we’re like, “we’re able to explore bottoming and there’s literally one person we’re able to have on the pod to achieve this, absolutely just one person who is quite literally the Supreme.”


Chingy

: thanks for identifying, it feels very good to own your own greatness recognized, thank you


Christina

: Yes, therefore’ve accomplished fantastic work, and here we are knowing it.


Drew

: I want to understand whenever you feel just like you became The united states’s biggest base. When was that a word and a label and an identity you actually presented onto?


Chingy

: Well, so I generally only say, “I’m the base Supreme.” Because, which cares about America?


Drew

: Sure.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Chingy

: Yeah, In my opinion that I always was great at bottoming, but then in 2017 or something, I visited a play celebration that was just for fem top sadists conquering myself right up for six to seven hrs straight, plus it was just me personally, and that I was like, “Oh, I’m top that is ever already been.” Right after which, I think following that, i simply held escalating and being, wow, I’m very fun to view. Wow, I’m thus interesting as a bottom, this really is wow, every person exactly who gets to peak myself is indeed lucky. And, it just moved following that, i do believe, then I had written articles labeled as i am a better Bottom Than You. Here’s Precisely Why. It had been variety of a manifesto, it had been a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: Yes, can confirm.


Chingy

: And, people have informed me, “It’s altered the way they examine intercourse.” And, i prefer that a lot. Oahu is the one post back at my website that I created there. I have authored at

Vice

,

Teen Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was actually the most important spot I composed, actually. But yeah, this is the one weblog on my site, if you wish to investigate for yourself.


Christina

: Everyone loves a strong brand, I favor once you understand a brandname, and I believe that’s actually gorgeous, just, brand name management of your own personal bottomy your self. In my opinion, that is really breathtaking observe.


Chingy

: many thanks, I managed to get my personal very first writing opportunity at

Autostraddle

because I was authoring becoming a bottom, being poly, being really deep into being a fabric dyke. And because then, I’ve started to talk about a lot of other things, but becoming bottom supreme just type is the one through distinct all of it.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I also feel you are a tremendously productive base plus in the way you come up with, and discuss, and I also think experience bottoming that you’re very productive. Whereas, I think there are many the queer community, maybe, particularly the lesbian area, that perhaps thinks of bottoming as… I don’t know-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we frequently say that there is way less bottoms than folks believe tend to be bottoms. In my opinion there’s a big change between being a bottom and simply unsure or requesting what you need. I believe those are two totally various things that people conflate.


Christina

: I would need certainly to concur, In addition think the way in which you talk about bottoming is actually, after all, why don’t we merely state it, such much less aggravating as compared to way more and more people discuss getting a base or recognize with bottom society. Because, i really do believe what many are saying clearly or non explicitly is simply, Im idle plus don’t proper care accomplish any type of motion, activity, et-cetera, i’d like things done to me. And, easily need certainly to look for that in any way, that affects my thoughts. And, you happen to be great and so powerful at being, these represent the issues that Needs, bring these to me and I also will rock the globe. That is gorgeous in my experience.


Chingy

: thanks, I mean, that’s what you should do are proficient at just something, you have to put your self nowadays and try and then make blunders and obtain harm a bit, and, I am not sure, study on it.


Christina

: i believe which is a great message, honestly.


Chingy

: i have merely been bottoming since I ended up being, I am not sure, dating back to I’m able to bear in mind. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, dating back to I can keep in mind, I always desired to be a bottom. No, but type of, when I had been 13 or 14, I happened to be already checking out SADOMASOCHISM web sites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM websites. Therefore, I happened to ben’t under any delusions about what I found myself in regards to, I was having girls I dated in senior school choke me personally completely, we understood what I wanted. And, that degree of consciousness has just given me a number of years to know what i’d like and work out how to have it.


Christina

: Gorgeous, received, give myself your feelings on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m actually truly thrilled to fairly share this because i’m like in 2019 {when I|as I|while
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